Receptor AV Marantz SR4500, comprado a audiomalaga de Audio Planet. ODAC. Yamaha A-S500 vs Marantz PM6004. Yamaha R-S700.

septiembre 8, 2012 29 comentarios

Mi nueva adquisición para mejorar mi sistema de audio de campo cercano es el Receptor de AV Marantz SR4500, comprado al forero audiomalaga de Audioplanet.

Reviews

  • revistacec.com Marantz SR4500

    • Potencia: 80 W RMS (20 Hz a 20 kHz, THD del 0,08 %) sobre 8 ohmios por canal. 105 W sobre 6 ohmios. Sensibilidad e impedancia de entrada: 168 mV, 47 kOhms. Relación señal/ruido: 105 dB (entrada analógica directa)…

  • hometheater.com AV Receiver Reviews: Marantz SR4500 A/V Receiver

Compraventa

Enviado con el embalaje original, es decir, perfectamente embalado. Parece que todo funciona correctamente, a falta de un subwoofer. El aspecto exterior es inmaculado. El vendedor, muy atento.

Mis cajitas han agradecido la compra. Estos días he leído varias veces comentarios acerca de la musicalidad de los amplificadores Marantz, y ahora lo aprecio.

Lo más llamativo es que estaba utilizando una ecualización y un plugin de realce de bajos en foobar2000 al detectar una pérdida de bajas frecuencias tras la última mejora de las cajitas RK7 (falta la última mano de pintura). Pues bien, resulta que el mejor sonido lo obtengo ahora sin añadido alguno, «a pelo».

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29 Responses to Receptor AV Marantz SR4500, comprado a audiomalaga de Audio Planet. ODAC. Yamaha A-S500 vs Marantz PM6004. Yamaha R-S700.

  1. maty says:
    septiembre 8, 2012 a las 11:29 am

    Ahora sí que el amplificador está a la altura de las excelentes especificaciones del DAC USB que adquirí semanas atrás, el ODAC diseñado por NwAvGuy (116€ puesto en casa, en la tienda suiza Head ‘n’ Hifi), y que recomiendo encarecidamente a todo amante de la buena música/grabaciones.

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  2. maty says:
    septiembre 8, 2012 a las 11:30 am

    El siguiente paso es la compra de un subwoofer, cuestión problemática en mi caso, pues el sitio menos malo que tengo es encima de un mueble, a la altura de las cajitas del RK7. Anoche decidí la compra de uno nuevo tras dercartar varios de segunda mano, alemán.

    Si es necesario, construiré una base rellena de arena seca para desacoplarlo del mueble y por ende de la estructura del edificio. El problema es que sólo tendré la posibilidad de girarlo y modificar los parámetros, no de moverlo, motivo por el cual no creo conveniente tirar la casa por la ventana.

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  3. maty says:
    septiembre 8, 2012 a las 11:51 am

    Como es habitual, he abierto un hilo en los foros sobre la transacción de compra-venta. Creo que se necesita estar registrado para acceder a la sección de compras.

    audioplanet.biz audiomalaga y la exitosa transacción del Receptor AV Marantz SR4500

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  4. maty says:
    septiembre 8, 2012 a las 11:21 am

    Había guardado mis auriculares Samson SR850 (32 ohms), que el RK7 Philips era incapaz de mover adecuadamente, a diferencia del ampli Denon («secuestrado» por el televisor de plasma Panasonic). Pues bien, ahora suenan como nunca, diría que bastante mejor que en el Denon. Más aún, siento la necesidad de modificar la ecualización implementada para aplanar la respuesta.

    Por tanto, el Marantz me ofrece una señal cualitativamente mejor, y no sólo más potencia (100W a 8 ohms y 128W a 4 ohms con distorsiones < 0,1%).

    This graph shows that the SR4500’s left channel, from CD input to speaker output with two channels driving 8-ohm loads, reaches 0.1% distortion at 100.4 watts and 1% distortion at 114.6 watts. Into 4 ohms, the amplifier reaches 0.1% distortion at 128.2 watts and 1% distortion at 158.8 watts.

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  5. maty says:
    septiembre 8, 2012 a las 6:34 pm

    Antes de pensar en un segunda mano, tenía en mente un amplificador integrado Yamaha.

    • whathifi.com Yamaha A-S300

    • whathifi.com Yamaha A-S500

    • whathifi.com Yamaha A-S700

    • Amazon.co.uk Customer Reviews: Yamaha AS500 Integrated Amplifier,iPhone and iPod Compatable with 85w X 2 High Power Output

    • Amazon.com Customer Reviews: Yamaha A-S500BL Integrated Stereo Home Theater Amplifier (Black)

    • Amazon.de Kundenrezensionen: Yamaha A-S 500 Stereo Verstärker schwarz

    Si añadía un subwoofer, con el S300 tendría suficiente, digo.

    • asia.yamaha.com A-S300

    • asia.yamaha.com A-S500

    Los mejores precios en la red:

    • Amazon.it Yamaha A-S300 Amplificatore 203,21€ + portes

    • Redcoon.es Yamaha A-S 500 Negro (Receptor Stereo) 307€ + portes

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    • maty says:
      septiembre 8, 2012 a las 6:48 pm

      Tras apreciar la «musicalidad» del Marantz, me olvidaría de los Yamaha.

      • marantz.es PM6004

      • whathifi.com Marantz PM6004

      Tough competition to beat

      With the PM6004 amp there’s an obvious goal: beat the Yamaha A-S500 that pipped its predecessor to our ‘Best Stereo Amp up to £500’ Award in 2010.

      To that end, Marantz has instigated a thorough overhaul, ditching the integrated circuits of the past in favour of separate preamp and power amp sections built entirely from discreet components…

      • supersonido.es Marantz PM6004 529€ + portes

      Google ES Marantz PM6004 review

      -> digitaltrends.com Marantz PM6004 Review

      -> hometheaterhifi.com Marantz PM6004 Integrated Amplifier and CD6004 CD Player

      -> Amazon.com Customer Reviews: Marantz PM6004 Integrated Amplifier

      Probablemente la versión anterior, whathifi.com Marantz PM6003 se consiga a mejor precio. La búsqueda la dejo para los interesados.

      Visto lo visto, creo que he hecho una excelente adquisición para mis cajitas RK7 de 4 ohms.

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    • maty says:
      septiembre 8, 2012 a las 9:38 pm

      Otra opción que contemplé fue la de un receptor Yamaha tras descubrir las excelentes críticas en distintas webs de Amazon. Claro que a mí la radio no me interesa, máxime teniendo el sistema de campo cercano basado en un ordenador.

      • Amazon.com Customer Reviews: Yamaha R-S500BL Natural Sound Stereo Receiver (Black) $349.95

      • Amazon.com Customer Reviews: Yamaha R-S700BL Stereo Home Theater Receiver (Black) $499.95

      Mejor subamos un nivel, pues el precio es sorprendente:

      • Redcoon.es Yamaha R-S 700 Negro (Receptor Stereo) 333€ + portes

      Características:

      – Receptor estéreo
      – Potencia de salida RMS (8 ohmios, 20 Hz-20 kHz) 100 W + 100 W (0,019% THD)
      – Potencia máx. (4 ohmios, 1 kHz, 0,7% THD, para Europa): 160 W + 160 W
      – Pure Direct
      – Amplificación directa de CD
      – Compatibilidad iPhone/iPod/Bluetooth
      – Terminales de altavoz bañados en oro
      – Salida de subwoofer

      – Distorsión armónica total (CD a Sp. Out, 20 Hz-20 kHz): 0,015% (50 W / 8 ohmios)
      – Potencia dinamica por canal (8/6/4/2 ohmios) 140/170/220/290 W
      – Relación señal/ ruido (CD): 107 dB (CD Direct on, 200 mV)
      – Respuesta de frecuencia: 10 Hz-100 kHz ± 1 dB
      – FM (mono/ estéreo): 74 dB/ 70dB

      Dimensiones:
      – 43,5 x 15,1 x 38,7 cm

      Peso:
      – 11,2 kg

      • hometheaterhifi.com Yamaha R-S700 Stereo Receiver

      Conclusions About the Yamaha R-S700 Stereo Receiver

      The Yamaha R-S700 is a welcome addition to Yamaha’s lineup of receivers. It’s also a refreshing change of pace from the typical multi-channel AV Receiver. Many multi-channel units, despite having a cost of well over $1,000, do not do justice to music. Many of them are fine for music, maybe even good, but I think this rating is always tempered by an oft unspoken «for a surround receiver» caveat. The R-S700 cuts to the chase and focuses on one thing and does it very well: 2 channel music. Now, that said, this is not a boutique audiophile 2-channel system.

      It is very good at 2 channel music, even better than many multi-channel receivers costing much more, but it’s probably not going to compete with a dedicated audiophile tube-amp based analog 2 channel system. Nor however, will it cost nearly as much. With an MSRP of $549, and a street price much below that, the Yamaha R-S700 is hard to pass up. If you long for a decent 2-channel system, but don’t want to take out another mortgage to do it, or if you have a smaller domicile like a condo, town home, or apartment, and don’t have the space for a full surround system, the Yamaha R-S700 deserves a serious look.

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  6. maty says:
    septiembre 13, 2012 a las 8:27 pm

    Audio Planet Ampli actual o vintage

    -> consejos-alta-fidelidad.blogspot.com.es Los mejores amplificadores baratos de la historia

    Aconsejo que perdáis un buen rato visitando el resto de contenidos de la bitácora, la mayoría muy interesantes.

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  7. maty says:
    septiembre 14, 2012 a las 9:18 am

    En este hilo argentino hay unas cuantas fotos del interior del Marantz SR4500. El dueño se planteó una posible mejora pero finalmente abandonó la idea.

    -> forodvdmania.com XXXX MARANTZ SR4500 XXXX por rosbuitre, 27.06.2010

    Me llama la atención la ausencia en las fotos de condensadores/capacitores grandotes, la primera mejora que uno se plantearía, digo.

    Lo bueno de mi compra es que no tendría miedo a experimentar con él si siento que necesita alguna mejora interna para intentar conseguir un mejor sonido.

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    • maty says:
      septiembre 14, 2012 a las 9:26 am

      Parece que todavía lo sigue utilizando, en vista de su firma. Lo mejor será contactar con el forero y preguntarle qué mejoras posibles se planteaba.

      Amp. SET valvular 300B
      Marantz SR4500
      Marantz DV6600 (mod)
      CD Player’s-Yamaha CDX-493/Akai CD-79 (mod)
      Nakamichi Cassete Desk2
      F/C/S-Vifa-Fostex-Vifa
      Velodyne CHT-10R
      Pioneer PL-510/Ortofon 2M red/Pre Kenwood Basic C2
      Infocus X9
      MacMini+XBMC
      Harmony 1000

      Los dos lectores los ha modificado. Su otro amplificador es valvular.

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  8. maty says:
    octubre 18, 2012 a las 11:00 am

    Si estáis interesados en el AV:

    • forodvd.com Pioneer VSX-922 vs. Marantz SR-5006 … ¿Yamaha RX-V773?

    Siempre que investigo la cuestión termino decantándome por Yamaha.

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  9. maty says:
    febrero 11, 2013 a las 12:10 pm

    Somewhere over the rainbow I wrote:

    Tannoy Reveal 601P, passive monitors to near field: What do you think about?

    I have also handled the idea of powered monitors connected to AV Marantz SR4500 preouts, but I finally decided that the following boxes, for near field, would be passive: Tannoy Reveal 601P

    -> http://jalpuna.com/archives/2010/07/tannoy_reveal_6.shtml

    -> http://www.zzounds.com/productreview–TNYREVEAL601P

    -> http://pagemac.com/azure/speaker_measure.php

    Tannoy Reveal 601P – Frequency Response

    And modify inside with rockwool ( > 500Hz) and poliuretano (< 500 Hz). And, perhaps, to change the capacitors.

    -> http://smg.beta.photobucket.com/user/pinobot/media/TannoyReveal601Pfilter.jpg.html

    Talking about preamps:

    Emotiva XSP-1 $899.00, Next shipping date: 02/15/2013
    -> http://shop.emotiva.com/products/xsp1

    *************************************************

    Crossover photo optimized:

    Bennic Poly 3.9 mfd

    -> http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/xxp-poly-cap-250vdc/bennic-poly-3.9-mfd/

    *************************************************

    tannoy.com REVEAL 601P

    -> http://www.tannoy.com/products/367/Reveal%20passive%20Manual%20LR2010331.pdf

    FEATURES

    Latest evolution of the original passive Reveal high definition reference monitor

    6.5” (130mm) LF/MF driver and 1” (30mm) soft dome tweeter delivering wide frequency response of 63Hz – 30kHz

    Sculpted and rigid front baffle design to minimise diffraction

    Response has been optimised for quarter space near-field operation, such as on a meter bridge or on a table either side of your control surface

    Front firing reflex bass port to negate boundary-coupling

    50-100W RMS Recommended Amp Power

    Bass unit development using to minimise offsets and linearise the suspension components.

    Wideband tweeter design extending the amplitude response beyond 20kHz audibility to 30kHz to improve the phase response from within the audible band.

    + 1.5 / 0 / -1.5dB HF trim switch for custom room adjustment
    Balanced XLR and unbalanced jack connectors

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  10. maty says:
    febrero 14, 2013 a las 11:47 pm

    enjoythemusic.com ADAM Audio A7X Powered Monitor Speaker Steven R. Rochlin

    Conclusion

    The ADAM Audio A7X delivers on the promise of not just highly accurate sound, it also plays music without fatigue hour after hour. The A7X have been playing here for at least 6, and upwards of 12 hours per day almost every day! In fact am listening to them right now as I type this, as they are my office speakers and thus had better be ‘all day listenable’ and produce zero aural fatigue. Am sure the outstanding X-ART tweeter has much to do with that. As I wrote earlier, if you have not done so you really owe it to yourself to hear these impressive tweeters…

    -> http://www.adam-audio.com/en/pro-audio/products/a7x/description

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  11. maty says:
    febrero 27, 2013 a las 9:26 am

    Review

    everythingaudionetwork.blogspot.com Mytek Stereo192-DSD DAC/Preamp: New D/A Gets Enhanced Features, DSD

    Despite a price of less than $1,600, the new Stereo192-DSD is right up there with the high-dollar DACs — in terms of build, features and audio quality. In fact, I think you would have to spend three times the price to get significantly better audio playback.

    With features such as ESS Sabre 32 DAC chip, native DSD/DoP playback, dual analog/digital volume control and quality headphone amp, and up-to-date computer connectivity, Mytek designer Michal Jurewicz, who has made high-end DACs for more than ten years, has shown that his latest DAC has what pros and audiophiles are looking for. The last Mytek I reviewed was the DAC-96 in 2006, and I found it to be a good-sounding DAC for its time. The new one, however, is in another league…

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  12. maty says:
    marzo 4, 2013 a las 4:40 pm

    computeraudiophile.com TEAC UD-501: Dual Mono DAC with DSD Streaming valenroy

    Excited to report that the TEAC-UD501 DAC is available in Singapore (Absolute Sound Level 3) at a fabulously attractive price of S$899! PCM support of up to 32bit-384kHz and DSD support of 64fs & 128fs via ASIO or DoP. Couldn’t resist and grab myself a unit for my headphone setup. The compromises made when compared to the Mytek is the lack of the pre-amp function and additional FIREWIRE/USB1.0/AES digital inputs. The TEAC is based off a dual-mono BurrBrown PCM1795 DAC configuration (dual toroidal transformers as well).

    This unit will be ideal if you are planning to use it as a dedicated DAC and feed single/balanced analogue outputs into your current pre-amp/integrated-amp. The 100mW @ 32 ohms load rating, as opposed to the 500mW for the Mytek, for the headphone amplifier section (uses MUSES 8920 opamps) seems meagre at most so I won’t be so thrilled to use it to drive Audez’e or Hifi-Man headphones but we will see when I try it out at home later…

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  13. maty says:
    marzo 5, 2013 a las 11:38 pm

    digitalaudioreview.net Resonessence Labs Concero review (TONEAudio) John Darko

    2. Sound. No, I’m not trolling. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: the sound from the USB input on nearly all DACs (that I’ve heard) falls short of its neighbouring S/PDIF input. That’s assuming the DAC can do both. I know this from regular and consistent deployment of USB-S/PDIF convertors. Manufacturer marketing departments are understandably coy about this USB performance shortfall. They’ll hit you with words like ‘asynchronous’ and ‘world class’ (what does the even mean?) and hope you’ll let your credit card fly. That’s business!

    The solution.

    When you buy a DAC, buy a USB-S/PDIF convertor too. You’ll be grateful that you did. This kind of DAR reader email is not uncommon:

    “John – I took your advice and bought a convertor to feed the DAC in my desktop system. (ATM it’s a Channel Islands VDAC from my main rig but I’m looking for a replacement). It’s only the Musical Fidelity V-Link 24/96, but the difference it has made is dramatic. Better imaging, far more relaxed and natural sound. Previously unpleasant-sounding discs now sound fine.

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  14. maty says:
    marzo 7, 2013 a las 11:23 pm

    Muy interesante la respuesta a la pregunta.

    hometheaterhifi.com Blu-ray Player for Older AV Processor?

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  15. maty says:
    abril 17, 2013 a las 7:29 pm

    Semanas atrás me hice con un AV Yamaha RX-V2700, que ha substituido al viejo Denon.

    Esta semana me he agenciado un AV Marantz SR7500 para un familiar.

    Muy satisfecho de ambas compras. Suenan diferente: el Marantz da un poco más de graves/cuerpo y voces con mayor volumen, ideal para el sonido televisivo.

    En unos días llegarán un par de cajas que substituirán a las del RK7. Y las abriré para mejorarlas enseguida -es lo que tiene el no ser nuevas.

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    • maty says:
      abril 17, 2013 a las 7:38 pm

      Por si os interesa, las compras han sido fuera de España, como era mi intención.

      AV Yamaha RX-V2700 por 200€ + gastos de envío.

      AV Marantz SR7500 por 212€ + gastos de envío.

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  16. maty says:
    junio 5, 2013 a las 9:51 pm

    audioholics.com Marantz SR5008, SR6008, and SR7008 Receivers Preview

    What Makes a Marantz Different Than a Denon?

    To start with, Denon and Marantz have difference engineering teams responsible for the final "house sound" of each brand. On the outside of each receiver, we can easily see that the front panels look different, the user interface is slightly modified, and Marantz tends to have higher quality binding posts and legacy audio support. But, what about differences we can’t readily see? What can you see if you crack open receivers from both companies? Below is a brief list of some, though not all, of the key differences between the two lineups. Note that these points are specific to the 08' Marantz receivers versus the 2013 Denon X series. Also note that some of these differences only apply to certain receivers in the lineups.

    Current feedback preamp topology – Allows for higher slew rate and lower distortion at all volume levels (particularly at low levels) than comparable voltage feedback designs

    Decoupled capacitors – To reduce residual noise and interference

    Marantz Decoupled Capacitors- Digital Board Marantz Decoupled Capacitors - DAC

    Decoupled Capacitors. Left: Around Digital Board Entrance. Right: Around DAC.

    Luxury power capacitors – Custom capacitors, larger values for Marantz SR7008 compared to the Denon AVR-X4000

    Hyper Dynamic Amplifier Modules (HDAM’s) – A discrete preamplifier circuit module proprietary to Marantz that goes between the volume control and power amplifier section to further improve performance.

    Denon AVR-X3000 Input PCB          Marantz SR6008 Input PCB - HDAM

                   Denon AVR-X3000 PCB (No HDAM)     Marantz SR6008 PCB (HDAM Incorporated) 

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  17. maty says:
    octubre 27, 2013 a las 11:28 am

    Emotiva Offering Halloween Specialty Discounts!
    -> http://shop.emotiva.com/

    XPA-2 Stereo Power Amplifier [Gen 2]
    -> http://shop.emotiva.com/products/xpa-2-gen-2

    $799.00 was $899.00 – FREE SHIPPING IN THE USA (details)

    but I live in Spain (Europe)…

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    • maty says:
      octubre 27, 2013 a las 11:39 am

      andrew-robinson-online.com REVIEW – Emotiva XPA-5 Gen 2 Multi-channel Amplifier

      Under the hood the X Series Gen 2 brings about even more improvements over the first generation product, beginning with the amplifier’s power supply. The XPA-5 now utilizes Emotiva’s proprietary ultra-low, ESR capacitors that are rated to 105ºC, thus improving longevity of not only the capacitors, but the amplifier on a whole.

      The amplifier modules inside the X Series amplifiers have been modified using new high-current, gain matched output transistors. The new output transistors have been sourced from ON Semiconductor (formerly Motorola) and can be found in numerous high-end amplifiers apart from Emotiva. These new output transistors are charged with improving linearity throughout the frequency band as well as improving high frequency performance. The new transistors coupled with a whole new board layout and grounding scheme help the XPA-5 achieve a lower noise floor while increasing dynamic range.

      Lastly, the XPA-5, like all X Series Gen 2 amplifiers, features a newly redesigned Toroidal transformer that features higher grade silicon steel internally that helps cut down on mechanical noise…

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    • maty says:
      octubre 27, 2013 a las 11:41 am

      “Emotiva’s proprietary ultra-low, ESR capacitors that are rated to 105ºC, thus improving longevity of not only the capacitors, but the amplifier on a whole”

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